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Environmental Quality Board’s Nutrient
Criteria Committee June 6, 2002 Attending:[1] Environmental Quality Board and Staff (first part only): Dr. David Samuels, Becky Charles, Libby Chatfield. Committee Members: Pat Bowen (NRCS), Tom Brand (WVDA), John Rowe (WVDF), Martin Christ (WVRC), Michael Hawranick (WVBPH), John Wirts (DWR), Wayne Appleton (WVMA and WVCC), Neil Gillies (Cacapon Institute), Kathy Rushworth (MWQA), Rodney Branson (WVFB), Larry Emerson (WVCA), Tiffany Crawford (USEPA). Alternates: Evan Hansen (WVRC), Luke Richmond (MWA), Rick Heaslip (NRCS) Others: Bob Williams, Liz Appel, Tim Ballon, Lisa Balderson, Paul Barnette, Ron Evaldi Material passed out 1. Proposed agenda for meeting 2. Charge to the Committee 3. November 14, 2001, Memo from Geoffry Grubbs to Directors, State Water Programs, and others. 4. Responses to [request for] Attendance at First Committee Meeting 5. Federal Register material from EPA’s website concerning preparation of Ecoregional Nutrient Criteria.[2] 6. Page of EPA website with links for nutrient criteria[3] There were two parts to this meeting. In part I, Dr. David Samuels of the EQB introduced the charge and made introductory remarks. In part II, the Nutrient Criteria Committee (NCC) followed the proposed agenda and made several decisions. I. Introductory
Remarks 1. All in attendance introduced themselves. Groups clarified their primary committee members and their alternates. Kathy Rushworth is the committee member for the Municipal Water Association and Luke Richmond is the Alternate. Martin Christ is the committee member for WV Rivers Coalition, and Evan Hansen is the alternate. 2. Dr. Samuels pointed out that the NCC needed to appoint a record keeper for this particular meeting. Dr. Christ volunteered, and was accepted as clerk for the meeting. 3. Libby Chatfield of EQB reviewed the charge to the NCC, and pointed out the justification outlined in the EPA memo by Geoffrey Grubbs. 4. Tiffany Crawford reviewed likely release dates for the nutrient database being prepared by a consultant to the EPA. The data concerning rivers and streams for WV should be available by mid-July. Ms. Crawford also agreed to provide links to the EPA’s Technical Guidance Documents (see handout #6). 5. Dr. Samuels reviewed the agenda. There was a special request to report to the EQB office any expect expenses, such as photocopying. Ms. Crawford invited the NCC to generate a letter requesting support for the project. 6. Becky Charles, counsel for the EQB, and Dr. Samuels reviewed the requirements of the Open Meetings Law for the NCC: · All meetings of the NCC must be open. · EQB will take care of required announcements of NCC meetings. · Subcommittees, whose work might be hindered by requiring announcement of meetings, may not make decisions on behalf of the committee, including decisions about filtering information to be brought to the NCC. · Public notice must be published for 5 days before the meetings. The State Register has a deadline of Wednesday for publication the following Monday.[4] · The EQB recommends the practice of deliberating with limited interruption, and then opening the floor to any audience members. 7. Dr. Samuels urged the committee to seek consensus, and cooperate for the sake of the welfare of West Virginia’s citizens, businesses, and environment. II. The Nutrient Criteria Committee’s
deliberations. Naming a chair: It was moved, seconded, and passed without dissent that Tom Brand should chair the current meeting. Review of agenda: Item 10 was moved to the end of the meeting, so that information generated could immediately be relayed to the EQB office. The selection of a meeting schedule (item 5) was also deferred. 1. Questions on the charge: The NCC observed that the first phase of the process has the task of recommending a plan for identifying nutrient criteria, rather than of choosing actual numbers. The fact that the EPA database is not yet ready, therefore, is probably no obstacle to the Committee’s work. 2. Taking minutes: The Committee determined that it would be best if someone from outside the committee could be hired to take minutes, or could take minutes as part of their job. John Wirts volunteered staff from the WVDEP-DWR. 3. Location of meetings: It was recognized that the distance for travel across WV were an obstacle to good participation. It was agreed to hold the next meeting in the WV Farm Bureau offices in Buckhannon, and to look into teleconferencing possibilities for later meetings. 4. Decision making structure: The Committee agreed to seek complete consensus on every issue. In the event that no consensus is reached, alternative views are to be recorded and scientifically explained in the written document. The names of the Committee members’ organizations will be associated with the view they espouse. The Committee also determined that it should select a Committee member as chair, but that it should be able to procure a facilitator should discussion become heated. Ms. Crawford offered some assistance by the EPA. Tom Brand was chosen unanimously as chair during the time the NCC develops the plan for the development of nutrient criteria. 5. The scheduling of the next meeting was deferred until the end of this meeting. 6. Role of alternates: The Committee agreed that alternates were invited to sit at the table and participate in deliberations, to work on the tasks of subcommittees, and to vote for the organization they represent in the absence of the Committee member. 7. Protocol for obtaining and analyzing data: The Committee agreed that: · The limitations of data (detection limits, analytical methods used) must be included with any data used by the group. · Committee members would send out calls for additional data and analysis to groups they represent. · Committee members would send out calls for additional data and analysis to faculty at WV colleges and universities. · A committee, led by John Wirts, would serve to keep track of all the data to be examined by the committee. 8. Subcommittee Topics and organization. Committee members volunteered, and were approved, for the following tasks: · Kathy Rushworth: Document Committee--will serve as repository for pieces of the report as it gets written. · Wayne Appleton: Distill EPA’s Technical Reports to determine their usefulness for the NCC in determining nutrient criteria. · Martin Christ: Designated Use section committee. Write and present section enumerating Designated Uses to be protected with nutrient criteria. · John Wirts: Data inventory task, as described in item 7.
10. Writing Assignments were assigned according to the committee assignments, above. 11. Expenses: The Committee recognized the following justifiable expenses for its work: travel and per diem for those whose organizations could not support their participation in the NCC; a facilitator when necessary; rental of meeting space; costs for obtaining publications; mailing costs; photocopying, and costs associated with data compilation. Pat Bowen agreed to prepare a rough budget for a request for support to the EPA. NEXT MEETING: The next meeting was set for Friday, June 28, 9:00 AM to 3:00 PM at the WV Farm Bureau Office in Buckhannon. [1] Abbreviations: MWQA-Municipal Water Quality Association; NRCS-Natural Resources Conservation Service; WVDA-WV Department of Agriculture; WVDF-WV Division of Forestry; WVRC-West Virginia Rivers Coalition; WVBPH- WV Bureau for Public Health; DWR-WVDEP Division of Water Resources; WVMA-WV Manufacturer’s Association; WVCC-WV Chamber of Commerce; WVFB-WV Farm Bureau; WVCA-WV Coal Association. [2] http://www.epa.gov/fedrgstr/EPA-WATER/2001/January/Day-09/w569.htm [3] http://www.epa.gov/ost/standards/nutrient.html [4] See WV Secretary of State’s website.
Approved
Minutes of the Meeting of WV
Environmental Quality Board’s Nutrient
Criteria Committee June
28, 2002 Attending:[1] Committee Members: Pat Bowen (NRCS), Tom Brand
(Potomac State College of WVU), John Rowe (WVDF), Martin Christ (WVRC), Michael Hawranick
(WVBPH), Wayne
Appleton (WVMA and WVCC), Neil Gillies (Cacapon Institute), Kathy Rushworth (MWQA),
Rodney Branson (WVFB), Tiffany Crawford (USEPA), Kim Miller (USGS), Randy Sovic
(DWR) Alternates: John Wirts (DWR),Evan Hansen (WVRC),Matt
Monroe (WVDA), Alvan Gale (DWR), Rick Heaslip (NRCS), Ron Evaldi (USGS), Randy
Maggard (WVCA) Others: Roger Sherman, Richard Herd, Randolph Ramsey, Jeffery Foster, Marc Harman, June Degraft-Hanson Material passed out 1. Proposed agenda for meeting
Introduction: All in attendance introduced themselves. 1. Review of Agenda Additional Agenda items:
i. “Municipal” instead of “Metropolitan” for MWQA ii. “data” instead of “date”
Unfinished BusinessVEE Grant Evan Hanson – went over VEE’s approval of Rivers Coalition $ 14 k grant request Review and analysis of available nutrient data and assured group that this grant was secured to aid this committee in its endeavors -
Neil Gillies mentioned that Kentucky has established periphyton sampling
program and asked Evan and Martin Christ to summarize their educational
background. Video TeleconferencingPat Bowen stated that the WVU’s Extension Service offers “interactive video networking” $ 60 / hour / location - several sites available Randy Sovic went over EQB discussion of funding for committee expenses. Letter forwarded to EPA. Pat Bowen drafted letter. Came up w/ $20k. Unfinished business from last meeting:
Martin Christ went over need to address FOIA requests.
Group decided that EQB would deal with any FOIA’s.
Kathy Rushworth reminded group that she would forward all handouts to the
board. Motion made, seconded, and
approved that “Our policy will be
to keep and supply all materials to the EQB in the case of any requests for
information” Note TakerTom Brand offered to get someone from the university at no cost, did not have specific person yet. Preference was for staff rather than student. Randy Sovic stated the benefits of utilizing EQB’s technical advisor. Several advantages as well as concerns with having Libby Chatfield as the note taker were expressed. Evan Hanson recommended a standing invitation to Libby to attend these meetings as technical expert, not as note taker – no objections. (Tiffany Crawford arrived at this point) Group reiterated that we will invite Libby to participate in the meetings while taking up Tom Brand’s offer of supplying a note taker. Motion passed unanimously. Informational Presentations
1.
USGS data – Ron Evaldi USGS Basin –wide approach to data. Discussed compilation of data from different sources. He felt that we should create GIS coverages at a minimum. Talked about difficulties of using results of “less than minimum detection limits” or censored data. ENSR database should be available soon, question arose: Why are we bothering with this effort of compiling data if it has already been done? Martin Christ and Neil Gillies lead discussion of appropriate forms of nitrogen and phosphorus to sample. Nitrate and Ammonia are most important locally, while total N is important when considering downstream effects. Also need to be concerned with the amount of nitrogen bound in existing algae and bedload, as well as cycling through the system 2.
Plan Development Guidelines – Tiffany Crawford Presented outline for plan development based on the “Plan Quick Points” Recommended that we would be well advised to follow the guidelines. Region 3 states are all in pretty much the same phase of development as WV. Chesapeake Bay Program – parts of this will and should show up in some way in the “plan” for WV as well as other states Region 5 has turned in plan that followed the outline, utilizing reference condition and effects based approaches. Other possibilities are biological and aesthetic based. Discussion of “What is the nutrient problem in the state?, “How to define the problem?” You can have enrichment without having a particular problem with our streams in the state – but contributing to the downstream nutrient problems. Several people expressed concerns with others (Chesapeake & Gulf) telling us what our problem is. Discussion of whether or not to consider economic impacts when developing criteria. Some felt that we should look first strictly at the science of nutrient impacts separately from any economic impacts. There are mechanisms to go through to allow more pollution if attainability isn’t practical. Others were concerned that TMDL’s will need to be written for any stream that doesn’t meet whatever criteria we come up with. Discussed using the National Strategy Development of Nutrient Criteria Document, Technical Guidance for Rivers and Streams, and the “Grubbs document” to create the plan. 3.
WV DEP data – John Wirts Discussed the data that DEP’s Watershed Assessment Program has been collecting and will be collecting. The program has 1835 sites with both macroinvertebrate data and nutrient data (single samples generally). The program began collecting periphyton this summer at randomly selected sites (n=150). A discussion of what periphyton can reveal about a stream followed. Periphyton responds quickly to changes in nutrient levels and can store nutrients. The periphyton community (which algal species or genera are present and in what proportions) is probably better to use than biomass. Question arose: If a community of periphyton is different from the “reference community”, does that mean that it’s impaired? We have the “balanced and indigenous community” issue to deal with. Martin Christ suggested working with Neil Gillies on the interactions of nutrients, periphyton, macroinvertebrates, and fish. Neil mentioned that it is nearly impossible to define a natural condition for larger streams. Wayne Applegate mentioned alternative measures that could be looked at: Chlorophyll A, DO sags, turbidity. Maryland and
Virginia are contemplating initiating a periphyton collection effort. Rick Heaslip discussed NRCS’ National Resource Inventory. Good source of information on landuse, as well as soil information, census data on livestock concentrations (animals / acre). They used satellite data to create the landuse numbers. Could use to correlate instream data to landusage. Committee Reports 1.
Document Committee – Kathy Rushworth Kathy has minutes and agenda from first meeting, and a document from John Rowe of Forestry. John mentioned Fernow Experimental Forest as a potential source of data (Nitrogen data from 1960 to present). Will keep a copy of all handouts and provide to EQB and anyone else. 2.
Method Selection Committee – Wayne Appleton Wayne handed out summary of Grubbs memo and technical guidance document and discussed chapter by chapter. Some members expressed concern about using the reference condition approach – it doesn’t necessarily provide impairment threshold. Martin suggested the possibility of using process control statistics (some deviation from the mean) Tiffany added that
none of the state plans that she has reviews had the reference approach as their
first choice. 3.
Designated Use Committee – Martin Christ Hand out of potential use designations affected by nutrients. One of group’s tasks will be to tie what our regulations say about protecting downstream uses with specific designated uses. Two cases: Downstream use within WV. Permits could be written with the idea of protecting the entire downstream watershed in mind. Two possible ways to do this: add an entire new category or add sub-category under existing categories. Case II –
Downstream uses outside of state. It was acknowledged that this will be more
difficult to get into rules. 4.
Data Inventory Committee – John Wirts Have not received
any data from non-agency groups. USGS
provided CD of their data. John
will assemble available data so that we can at least see what data exist and
where it is from. Other Business Tiffany emphasized working on a plan. Group decided to work in sub-groups to create draft plans prior to next meeting and agreed to circulate electronically so that others can read and prepare comments. The need for a facilitator to help with assembling the individual plans into a single plan was mentioned. Neil Gillies said he would contact Canaan Valley Institute to see if they could provide facilitator. [1] Abbreviations: MWQA-Municipal Water Quality Association; NRCS-Natural Resources Conservation Service; WVDA-WV Department of Agriculture; WVDF-WV Division of Forestry; WVRC-West Virginia Rivers Coalition; WVBPH- WV Bureau for Public Health; DWR-WVDEP Division of Water Resources; WVMA-WV Manufacturer’s Association; WVCC-WV Chamber of Commerce; WVFB-WV Farm Bureau; WVCA-WV Coal Association.
Approved
Minutes of the Meeting of WV
Environmental Quality Board’s Nutrient
Criteria Committee AUGUST 9,
2002 These minutes should be considered draft until modified, clarified, corrected by the Committee at its next meeting on Sept. 5, 2002. 1.
Chair Tom Brand called the meeting to order at 9:00 a.m. Introduced
Jennifer Fisher as note-taker 2.
Introductions All
persons present introduced themselves and their affiliation.
Those signing the attendance sheet included:
a.
Explanation of the EQB’s action regarding adding new members to the
Nutrient Criteria Committee: A
memorandum from Edward Snyder was distributed.
New members added by action of the EQB were: Joe Hankins (Freshwater
Institute in Shepherdstown); Margaret Janes (the Appalachian Center for the
Economy and the Environment); Ben Stout (aquatic ecologist from Wheeling Jesuit
University); and Dan Ramsey (USFWS). b.
New Nutrient Criteria Committee Members A
discussion followed during which some members of the committee expressed concern
about politicizing the nature of the group’s work through changes in
membership and composition of the committee.
A letter to Edward Snyder from Karen Price of the West Virginia
Manufacturers Association and Steve Roberts of the West Virginia Chamber of
Commerce was distributed, as it articulated the viewpoint of concern. A
concern was raised about changing the composition of the group to a stakeholder
committee through new members. Tiffany
Crawford of EPA emphasized that EPA was not a stakeholder, rather a participant
to ensure the process is correct and follows on a path toward legal compliance.
Others on the committee suggested that the additional members added
scientific and technical expertise and that not everyone was pleased with the
original committee. Those
expressing concern about adding members cautioned that the group is set up to
reach consensus and that counting votes should not be given weight since the
representational make up of the group remains a concern to some.
Mr.
Armbrecht helped conclude the discussion by suggesting that concerns about
membership should be addressed to the EQB that constituted the committee, and he
also commended the scientific backgrounds of the membership.
Others
suggested that the committee’s success will be defined by how it works and not
who it is. The committee should do
its best to bring the best science and interests to the EQB and let the Board
decide what to do with those recommendations. c.
Meeting facilitator: Dave Clark with the Canaan Valley Institute was introduced as the meeting facilitator. 2.
Review of minutes of the June 28, 2002 Nutrient Criteria Committee
meeting. The minutes
were reviewed and the following changes requested: -
Tom
Brand’s organization should be changed to Potomac State College of WVU -
Applegate
should be Appleton (a typo) -
Include an
omitted comment regarding the suggestion to use process control statistics (some
deviation from the mean) Motion to
accept minutes with these modifications was seconded and passed without dissent. 3.
Old business There is not
a budget yet, but work is being done in this regard.
Region III states will get a maximum of $10,000 at this point.
EPA is asking the committee to outline funding needs so that these can be
factored into next fiscal year funds. (this
covered agenda item # 5: Funding available from USEPA) The Board will have more discussions on reimbursement and any changes or updates, and perhaps limitations, will be reported to the committee as decisions are made. 4.
Status report of Chesapeake Bay Agreement: (note, this item was moved
to directly after lunch due to logistical problems)
w
A compact of
states formed to address problem before a TMDL is required for the Bay (i.e.,
remove it from 303 D list). w
VA, MD, DC,
PA are the original signatories w
WV, DE, and
NY were asked to develop a Memorandum of Agreement with the signatories. w
DE and NY
achieved consensus and signed, while WV worked through its reservations. w
In June
2002, WV’s governor signed WV in as a voting member of the process and thus
gave WV a critical position in negotiations and in appropriations.
So far $250,000 has been provided in funding. w
There are
still many questions, issues, concerns to be addressed. w
Note that
the Chesapeake Bay Program includes a nutrient sub-committee.
Mr. Brannon passed around an organizational chart and a summary of the
nutrient sub-committee. w There was discussion about how WV’s involvement in the Bay program fits or doesn’t fit into the Nutrient Criteria Committee’s work. EPA suggested these are not isolated functions. 5.
Funding available from USEPA: 6.
Discussion of Nutrient Criteria Plans: The group was given time to read through 4 different plan
submissions, which were informally referred to by the following names: 1. Agency Proposal 2. Regulated Community Proposal 3.
Forestry (including Appendix E) 4. Rivers Coalition et al Proposal The
facilitator reviewed the committee’s purpose: to advise the EQB on the plan
due to the USEPA for use in developing nutrient standards. The due date to EPA is 10/31/02.
The group affirmed that it will operate on consensus and decided to use
the EPA guidelines passed out during the meeting as the framework. The
following represents the perceived points of consensus emanating from a
discussion about each section of the EPA guidelines.
A draft of the first 2 main headings (approach and form) were handed out
after lunch and the Committee was given an opportunity to comment or make
changes—no changes were asked for at this time. DRAFT PERCEIVED POINTS OF
CONSENSUS Following
the EPA suggested guidelines for nutrient criteria development plans: The first
step will be to define “impairment” for purposes of the nutrient criteria
schematic [questions still on the table about the approach to this] 1.
Approaches: What approach or approaches will be pursued? a.
Preference is for a cause and effect approach to be
used. b.
If there is not sufficient data for a cause and
effect model, the approach should be to establish an empirical relationship. c.
The alternative to the first two approaches is that
the Working Group will define when and under what circumstances a
reference-based criteria might be appropriate. 2.
Form: What parameters will be included in the criteria? The
following parameters may be included: w
TP w
TKN
(includes ammonia and already in-place toxicity standards) w
Nitrate w
Nitrite w
Turbidity w
DO w
pH w
Temperature w
Periphyton w
Chlorophyll
‘a’ (for large streams and lakes) w
Sechii depth w
Biological
community measures (e.g., fish, aquatic plants, microbial population) w
Aesthetic/Qualitative/Narrative
standards w
Standing
stocks of nutrients 3.
Process: What will be the overall process? w
Consensus
was not reached with regard to land-use in the plan/process. w
EQB and EPA
will further investigate the land-use issue. w
Land use
will then be discussed further by the Committee. w
With the
lack of consensus, the committee moved on to address classifications. a.
classification: 1)
Waters
draining to the Potomac River vs. waters draining to the Ohio River 2)
Lakes and Reservoirs 3)
Level IV Ecoregions (geology) 4)
Ohio River 5)
Big Sandy and Tug Fork Rivers 6)
North Branch of and Potomac Rivers 7)
Wetlands 8)
Tier 2.5 and 3 waters 9)
Wastershed size (e.g., stream order 1,2,3 vs 4,5) 10)
Water
shared with other states vs. those entirely within WV and/or impact across state
lines 11)
High
gradient/low gradient b.
regionalization It
was discussed that regionalization will be driven by classifications chosen from
this list and the Committee was not prepared to purport a position on the
subject of regionalization at this time. 7.
Schedule of next meeting and agenda: The next
meeting was agreed to for Friday,
September 6, 2002. All agreed
to hold it at the same place, the WV Farm Bureau in Buckhannon, WV.
The meeting will be from 9:30 a.m.
to 3:30 p.m. Each of the
authors of the 4 plans was asked to re-evaluate his/her current submission in
the context of the EPA format (narrative option) suggested and followed during
today’s meeting. Also authors are
asked to identify areas in other plans where there is/can be agreement and
incorporate those in the next iteration of their plans.
These next iterations should be emailed to the Committee by Wednesday,
September 4th. Members
should add funding issues (to
accomplish the work plan) to the list of things to consider.
The
Committee’s goal is to give the EQB a draft by the end of September so that
the plan can be taken up in the EQB’s October meeting. 8.
Meeting adjourned 3:00 p.m. NOTE: Materials passed out during meeting: -
4 draft plan
submissions -
Comparison
of Nutrient Plan timetables (submitted by Martin Christ) -
EPA Draft
guidelines for review of states’ nutrient criteria development plans -
Memorandum
to Nutrient Criteria Committee from Edward Snyder, Chair EQB (dated August 8,
2002) -
Letter to
Edward Snyder, Chair, EQB from Karen S. Price (WV Manufacturers Association) and
Steve Roberts (WV Chamber of Commerce), (dated July 30, 2002) -
Overview of
Nutrient Sub-Committee of Chesapeake Bay Program (passed around) -
Chesapeake
Bay Program Organizational Chart (passed around) -
Draft of
Perceived Points of Consensus (passed out after lunch, based on the morning’s
work). FINAL MEETING MINUTES SEPTEMBER 6, 2002, 9:30 a.m. FARM BUREAU OFFICES BUCKHANNON, WV PRESENT:
The attendance sheet was not circulated to the general audience. Chairman Brand called the meeting to order at 9:30 a.m. 1.
Review and Approve of the minutes of the August 9, 2002 Nutrient Criteria
Committee (NCC) Meeting.
Chairman Brand called for corrections to the minutes from
the August 9, 2002 NCC meeting. The
following corrections were proposed:
Larry Emerson moved for approval of the corrected minutes
from the August 9, 2002 NCC meeting. Pat
Bowen seconded the motion and the minutes were approved by a unanimous vote. 4.
Discussion of Nutrient Criteria Plans (note: this item was moved up on
the meeting agenda) Copies of various documents were prepared for distribution. Dave Clark stated that the NCC is not a stakeholders group.
The purpose of the NCC is to develop a comprehensive, well thought-out
Nutrient Criteria Plan (Plan). If
full consensus of the group is not possible, the dissenters may draft a
response. Wayne Appleton noted that the goal for today’s meeting is
to finish the Plan and submit the Plan to the EQB. Dave Clark stated that land-use is outside of the scope of
the NCC , therefore the NCC will begin today’s meeting with Agenda Item 4.
Discussion of Nutrient Criteria Plans. Wayne Appleton stated that the “Regulated Community”
did not prepare a new draft of their plan because the Re-Draft Agency Proposal
was acceptable as the basis for continued discussion and development. The NCC then used the document entitled “Re-Draft Agency
Proposal, Nutrient Criteria State Plan” as the basis for further discussion of
the Plan. Please refer to the
attachments to the minutes for a copy of the edited “Re-Draft Agency
Proposal.” After completing review of the Plan, Dave Clark focused the
discussion on two additional documents:
Dave Clark noted that the first document summarized the
decision-making process for establishing nutrient criteria and the second
document was a time-line to submit to EPA. Evan Hansen then described the flow chart submitted by WVRC/ACEE/Cacapon
Inst. Kathy Rushworth then described the diagram submitted by the
Regulated Community. Several
changes were proposed and are incorporated in a revised diagram attached to the
minutes. 2.
Report from Tiffany Crawford on the teleconference held on 08/29/02 with
USEPA representatives regarding the issue of whether land use can be considered
when establishing water quality standards criteria for nutrients. Tiffany Crawford was unable to attend the NCC meeting.
USEPA was represented by George Gibson and Manjali Vlcan.
A copy of notes from the August 29, 2002 teleconference was distributed. A written “Summary of call” from a September 5, 2002
Teleconference also were distributed. Click
here to read. Note: With regard to the land-use issue, Mr. Sherman noted that there was not consensus that land-use was off the table and out of the scope of the NCC. Mr. Gillies noted that the EQB needs to provide clear guidance. Ms. Crawford pointed out that the criteria should be set first, then look at land use. Discussion continued, without reaching consensus on the land use factor in criteria development. 3.
Update on the Environmental Quality Board’s continued discussions
regarding reimbursement of NCC member travel expenses. The EQB has circulated a request for reimbursement form.
Please submit the form to the EQB if you desire to be reimbursed. 5.
Schedule the next NCC meeting and identify specific agenda items. The next meeting is scheduled for Monday, October 21, 2002
from 9:30 a.m. to 3:30 p.m. at the Farm Bureau offices in Buckhannon, WV. 6.
Adjourn Meeting adjourned at approximately 4:00 p.m. Note: The
following materials were passed out at the meeting:
October
21, 2002
Nutrient Criteria Committee
Meeting Minutes
Attending (sign-in
sheet was not passed in the audience): Dave Clark, Canaan Valley Institute (Facilitator) Neil Gillies, Cacapon Institute Evan Hansen, WV Rivers Coalition Martin Christ, WV Rivers Coalition John Rowe, WVDOF Patrick Bowen, USDA-NRCS-WV Michael Hawranick, WV Bureau of Public Health Roger Sherman, WV Forestry Association Joseph Hankins, Conservation Fund/Freshwater Institute Randy Sovic, WVDWR Rodney Branson, WVFB Tiffany Crawford, USEPA Region III Kimberly Miller, USGS Wayne Appleton, WVMA/WVCC Jeff Skousen, WVU College of Ag& Forestry Ben Stout, Wheeling Jesuit University Alvan Gale, WVDEP Patricia Miller, WVU Extension Service (observer) Wayne
Appleton, acting as chair without objection, called the meeting to order at 9:30
a.m. 1. Update on
Chesapeake Bay Initiative (by Bob Koroncai, USEPA Region III) Speaking to the group by phone, Mr. Koroncai reviewed a
powerpoint presentation that was handed out to the Nutrient Criteria Committee (NCC).
The following notes represent points made during the discussion:
1) Dissolved Oxygen - different creatures have different DO criteria (from 6 mg/l to almost 0 mg/l) - in response to a question from the NCC—the Chesapeake Bay group is still working on the sampling regime. -
In response to a question from the NCC—the criteria for migratory
spawning nursery from Feb. 15 to June 10 should read “minimum” instead of
“maximum” 2) Chlorophyll a - A species composition shift indicates a potential problem or change in levels—so the criteria have to do with the species that are maintained. - Of the criteria, this is the weakest in terms of data supporting it—this week there will be a meeting that will work toward deciding on a numeric criterion or a narrative criterion with numeric support. -
In response to a question from the NCC—this area of criteria only
applies to the growing seasons of spring and summer. 3) Water clarity - Deals with sediment and algae - Extensive study is being done on of the bay grasses to try to understand what water quality is needed. Sunlight is shown to be important, clarity is being used for criteria (shallow waters) - Sunlight penetration is affected by light absorption, color, total suspended solids (dominant problem), and algae (second biggest problem). - Sunlight penetration is expressed as percentage of light through water and percentage of light through leaf. The former is easier to capture and will probably be used. - In order to determine the depth that this applies to, the group is going back through 30 years of satellite photography and looking at what grasses have ever been able to survive and where—these are the areas where it is thought the grasses can be brought back. -
Criteria will probably apply during the growing seasons.
- Identifying magnitude, duration, and recurrence interval (i.e., how many times can a criteria be exceeded over what period of time). - The anticipated guideline will be that criteria cannot be exceeded more than 10% of the time/volume model (within each segment)—anything within this parameter will equate to attainment. A final decision on inclusion of this should be made week.
www.chesapeakebay.net/baycriteria.htm
1) airshed model (out to mid-U.S.) 2) watershed model (entire watershed of the Bay—up to NY and including WV)—tracks loading of nutrients. 3)
All loading from airshed and watershed—simulate in 1 hour increments
what is happing in the water quality chemistry and telling us what is happening
in the Bay (can simulate past, present, and future) - The Bay is complex and these models are 15 years in the making—including scientific and peer review. - Every 5 years the models are updated with major revisions and tweaked as necessary during the interim. - In terms of confidence: - very confident in model for Dissolved Oxygen (and good criteria) - moderately confident for clarity (less modeling experience, but criteria are strong) - very confident in model for chlorophyll a (but criteria may be weak) - model is being examined for confidence intervals for different segments. -
For additional information, go to www.chesapeakebay.net
or call the head of the modeling team: Lewis Linken at 410-267-5741. §
Ms. Crawford asked if the NCC was satisfied with its
representation in the Bay discussions. Several
people noted their participation in various aspects; e.g., the Steering
Committee, and other working committees. No member spoke up as unsatisfied. 2. Approval of Minutes: §
Change misspelling of Hansen on page 2. §
Clarify on page 2 that Mr. Appleton meant that the EQB will vote
on the plan submitted by the NCC and then forward it to the EPA. §
With regard to the land-use issue, Mr. Sherman noted that there
was not consensus that land-use was off the table and out of the scope of the
NCC. Mr. Gillies noted that the EQB
needs to provide clear guidance. Ms.
Crawford pointed out that the criteria should be set first, then look at land
use. Discussion continued, without
reaching consensus on the land use factor in criteria development. §
With no other changes specified, the minutes were moved for
approval, seconded and accepted without objection. 3. Other Business:
1) Ben Stout, Dept. of Biology, Wheeling Jesuit University (bens@wju.edu) 2)
Jeff Skousen, WVU College of Ag. & Forestry (jskousen@wvu.edu)
1) A letter proposed to send to WV scientists (and the list of those scientists). Ms. Miller asked to be added to the list. At the end of the meeting it was decided that it was okay for Mr. Christ to send the letter and Mr. Appleton would send a similar inquiry to the business community. 2)
A report on the relationship between nutrient concentrate and SCI.
Mr. Appleton asked for the data and it will be sent to him by Mr. Christ.
This report can be taken up at the next meeting, as there was not time
for members to read and digest the report for discussion today. 4.
Completion of Report: Note: Mr. Hansen offered to type changes on his laptop
hooked to an LCD projector to ensure consensus on the discussed changes.
At the end of the meeting, a copy of the “final” report was passed
out, but a few changes were made subsequent and appeared on the screen but are
not reflected in the version photocopied at the meeting.
The final report will be emailed to the NCC. The following are the changes that were made (provided as a
record of the changes—the draft Mr. Hansen will circulate to the group
subsequent to the meeting will serve as the work product): §
Take out time frame under the General Goals/Objectives section. §
Under II, add a third bullet to read: “Alternatives to the first
two approaches are to define when and under what circumstances a reference based
or other methods might be appropriate.” §
Under III, delete “where agreements of loads of P and N are
entered and accepted criteria may also be considered.” Change next sentence to
read: “West Virginia will evaluate parameters from interstate and partnership
agreements and incorporate them into nutrient criteria, as appropriate.” §
Under 3) Classifications, change the introductory line to read:
“Classes of waters for which criteria will be developed include:” and change
the heading of (b) to “All other waters.” Item (iii) under (b) is changed to “streams and rivers
(considering size, order, and gradient)”.
Items (iv) and (v) of draft are deleted. §
Under 5) Inventory of Existing Data, the parenthetical phrase is
deleted, (g) is edited to read “US Army Corps of Engineers data”, and (m) is
edited to correct spelling of “Forest”. §
Also under 5) Inventory of Existing Data, the final paragraph had
several parts deleted to read more simply as: “Data will first be analyzed to
determine where data gaps exist in order to define subsequent sampling and
analysis needs. Data will then be
used according to the approach outlined in Section II.” §
Under 7) Assessing Progress, the first sentence was deleted. §
Under 8) Deviations and Revisions, the “workgroup” was changed
to “EQB’s Nutrient Criteria Committee.” Then “changes” in the next sentence was modified by the
addition of “approved.” §
Section IV became Sections IV, V, VI, outlining near-term,
intermediate-term, long-term objectives. A flow chart will also be added to
specify the timeline, and the report will note the following: o
Near-term: (1-2 years) o
Intermediate-term (2-5 years) o
Long-term (5-7 years) §
As noted, a few changes were made subsequent to handing out the
plan toward the end of the meeting. These
included, adding a (3) to say, “The Legislature will: adopt and implement
final criteria.” And then add a
final section, VII, that will say, “The EQB conducts triennial reviews of
water quality standards and will make adjustments as appropriate.”
This assures the EPA that a process is in place to monitor achievement. §
The plan will be circulated to the members by October 22nd,
and then transmitted to the EQB. Mr. Appleton will attend the EQB meeting on Thursday, Oct. 24th,
at which time the NCC’s plan will
be taken up on the agenda. 5.
Next Meeting and Agenda: The next meeting was scheduled for Thursday, December 12, 9:30 a.m. – 3:30 p.m. at the WV Farm Bureau in
Buckhannon, WV. Members of the NCC are asked to submit ideas, items, and issues relative to: a) the workplan and development of a budget b)
The definition of impairment The various submissions will be posted on the NCC website (on Cacapon web site) by Mr. Gillies so that members can review these prior to the next meeting and come prepared to discuss. It was also suggested, that the NCC might need to discuss protocols for discussion of these and subsequent topics. Meeting adjourned at 3:45 p.m. Materials passed out at meeting § As FYI, 4 program fact sheets from the Farm Bill 2002 § Powerpoint slides of Chesapeake Bay presentation § Minutes of last NCC meeting, September 6, 2002 § Draft letter to scientists and list of scientists (provided by Mr. Christ) § Draft report entitled “Nutrient Concentrations and West Virginia Stream Condition Index Values.” (authored by Mr. Christ and Mr. Hansen) § Combined Plan draft, with member comments (used as a working document during meeting) § Draft procedures for EPA review of plans § The redrafted plan as edited during the meeting
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